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#1 Tsu'tey

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 04:16 PM

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:28 PM

I must correct the spelling....Omatikaya is spelled with a k. There is no letter c in the Na'vi language.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:29 PM

but in movie it says c and iven on wikipedias for avatar movie it also says with a c so k sems wrong :)

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:31 PM

View PostJake Sully, on 14 May 2011 - 06:29 PM, said:

but in movie it says c and iven on wikipedias for avatar movie it also says with a c so k sems wrong :)

I don't know why it says c in all those places, but I assure you there is no letter c in the Na'vi language.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:32 PM

hmm okay :/ but it is C ;) iven when they say name it sounds k but it is spelled with c :)

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Ninat is the best singer. -Neytiri



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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:38 PM

View PostJake Sully, on 14 May 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

hmm okay :/ but it is C ;) iven when they say name it sounds k but it is spelled with c :)

No...no it is not spelled with a c. The letter c does not exist anywhere in the Na'vi language. The clan name wouldn't be spelled with a non-existent letter.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:39 PM

it is with a c -.- check movie you see it says omaticaya clan not omatikaya since k is wrong c is right :)

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Ninat is the best singer. -Neytiri



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Beyral is a good hunter. -Neytiri



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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:41 PM

Txonä has right :)
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:42 PM

well movie has c in name and all wikipedia sites has c in name to so why do they have c if you 2 are saying it is with k :)

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Ninat is the best singer. -Neytiri



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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:44 PM

View PostJake Sully, on 14 May 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

it is with a c -.- check movie you see it says omaticaya clan not omatikaya since k is wrong c is right :)

Just because it is spelled that way in the movie doesn't mean it's correct. Not everything in the movie is correct, believe me. I don't mean to sound rude here, but I have been studying Na'vi over a year, I think I know how things are spelled and which letters are legal and which are not.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:46 PM

Okay well then i have to fix so it is with k :)

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:44 PM

I joined this forum first of all to back up Txona. I realize that Wikipedia and the movie have the c spelling. If you know anything about the origins of the conlang Na'vi, it all started when James Cameron gave Paul Frommer(the man James Cameron hired to create the Na'vi language) a short list of words outlining what Cameron wanted the language to sound like. These words have not any construction rules, just raw ideas. Most of them were proper nouns, including Eywa'eveng (Pandora) and among them was "Omaticaya". at the time of conception, there was no ruling out the letter C. However, shortly later, Paul Frommer created the ground rules for the language including which sounds will and will not be in the language. Then he chose a system to represent the sounds i.e. the "writing system." This was designed such that the actors will be somewhat easily able to read the lines. At this point, the letter C has been ruled out as a letter, as K and S ARE in the language. (There was a point in time early in Na'vi language where the letters c and g were a part of the language, but c = ts and g = ng. today, we just use ts and ng instead of just c and g. less confusing.) At the end of the day, Paul Frommer is the main man who is involved in the creation of the Na'vi language. James Cameron and some others may have inspired ideas for words, and these days, folks from LearnNavi.org are actually creating creating words, but only by the will and permission of Paul.

TL;DR my point here is, that Today, the word really is spelled with a k, though the original word by Cameron was spelled with a c. It was changed by Frommer for consistency and to conform to the orthography and morphology that he created.

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I as well as most other LearnNavi forum moderators attended a small event in Sonoma, California last October to discuss with Paul Frommer in person many issues of the language. Among the things discussed there was the Activist Survival Guide dictionary appendix. This was apparently published without his permission or even knowledge. That dictionary is apparently taken from an old unstable spreadsheet of words which Paul was not prepared to publish. He said there at the event that he was not very happy with that. Therefore, that section of that book has been denied canon status by most (if not all) of the LearnNavi community.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:49 PM

i see im gona update badge later :)

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Ninat is the best singer. -Neytiri



But I don't want Ninat. -Jake Sully



Beyral is a good hunter. -Neytiri



Yeah, she is a good hunter. - Jake Sully



I've already choosen. -Jake Sully



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Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:57 PM

View PostJake Sully, on 14 May 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:

i see im gona update badge later :)

Of course, not meaning to sound rude at all, just an objective response, trying to help. ;) If you have any other questions, ask. :/

OH and also, I meant to say this in my last post.

LearnNavi.org is basically the official place to learn the language. LearnNavi.org DOES own navilator.com

!!BUT!!

that translator needs MUCH WORK. it is good for 1:1 word by word translations, as it knows nothing of grammar. Just a word of friendly informative warning by a LN member.
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Posted 15 May 2011 - 12:01 AM

Lol okay

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 06:51 PM

That was something that got me too was that in several places, I've seen it with a "C", but it is with "K".

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 06:55 PM

lol okay but it's weird they do with c when it's really K -.-

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Ninat is the best singer. -Neytiri



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Posted 15 May 2011 - 11:52 PM

I blame the premature unauthorized release of na'vi words while it was in an early unstable development stage.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:04 AM

Hmm ok

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Ninat is the best singer. -Neytiri



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I've already choosen. -Jake Sully



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Posted 26 June 2011 - 09:08 PM

Why did no 1 told me 'bout this site????? :D
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